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  Remember the two elderly sisters?

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  about a month ago i posted what had happened to two elderly sisters who were reprimanded by a couple of elders for crying because the jw broadcasting was going to be stopped at the kingdom hall and it was up to each publisher to learn how to use the internet.

  if you recall the sisters got together with my mom and talked about it and it resulted in all of them declining to make meals for the pioneers.

  here is the link.

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  cha ching

  Awesoooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmeee!!

  I love to hear people can still think!

  and take action!
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  Beroean Pickets

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

  http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

  although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

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  I think that they are analyzing what Lett said in his video... My sister and I were doing the numbers just a few days ago, and this is pretty interesting:

  To deepen his appeal for more money, Brother Lett continues:

  “For one thing, the financial needs in the field have accelerated at a pace unlike any time in the recent past.”

  Why have these needs accelerated at such an unprecedented rate? Is it because of unprecedented growth? Let’s see. He continues: “A recent analysis of the needs for kingdom halls here in the United States showed that 1600 new kingdom halls or major renovations are needed, not sometime in the future, but right now.”

  “And worldwide we are in need of more than 14,000 places of worship not including ongoing future growth”

  Last year there was a 1% growth rate in the United States. According to the 2015 Yearbook, the number of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the U.S. increased by 18,875. If we assume an average congregation size of 70 publishers, that represents just 270 congregations. Since most halls are used to house multiple congregations, this represents conservatively a need because of growth for 135 additional kingdom halls assuming that none of the existing halls has room for these new congregations. Yet we are told that there is a desperate need for many times that number. Why?

  Worldwide the need is for 14,000 halls according to Lett. That would be enough for 30,000 congregations. Yet, according to the 2015 Yearbook, the total number of congregations grew last year by only 1,593.

  Even if we allow for one hall for every congregation, that still leaves us to explain why an additional 12,500 kingdom halls are urgently needed.

  If they are asking us for money, they really need to explain why this sudden expansion is needed at a time when the worldwide growth is slowing down based on the organization’s own statistics.

  This reminds me when my husband and I looked at each other during the Circuit Assembly when they said "We are starting out $5,000 in the hole.... we need more $$" then at the end of the assembly, they say they have four, five, six thounsand dollars, and does everyone want to send it to Mother, New York? Yes, they do. They do that every single time. If they "saved" that money, they wouldn't need more... However, in reality, they never were "down by $5,000" they JUST say it....
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  New Inactive One Saying Hello to all

  by Lostwun in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lostwun here, i joined 2 months ago but am now just finding the courage after doing more research to formally introduce myself to the board and embrace my new beginnings as an ex-jw.

  i am a second-generation jw.

  i grew up with parents who are well known and very respected in many circuits.

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  cha ching

  Congratulations, lostwun! You have just begun a new adventure in your life! A thrilling one!

  My husband and family and I have left the org in recent years as we too could not take the hypocrisy, failed predictions, lying, pedophilia and lack of love. We endured this organization many years before we saw the light /607 b.ce, but when we did? we were out! My husband came to the conclusion first, he had started to look at older books that a friend had collected as a hobby, and hubby had always wanted to read them.... OMG, if you think the WT is a brain drain, try reading things from the 1800's and early 1900's "The Finished Mystery"....

  In 2011, when the WT did 2 articles on 607, we did the grease board thing and new thata 1914 was wrong, which means '1919, the year the chosen were chosen' was wrong also. They could not be God's organization.

  But when I read in the Finished Mystery the concoctions they went thru to prove the printery was exactly so many furlongs from where the book was written, and take into consideration the Hoboken tunnel being worked on...... " I knew they (the WTBTS) were numerologists... simply changing numbers, dates, events to fit their scheme.... I cried...

  Back on point: Having friends and contacts is soooooooo important....

  Spending time with your husband, and creating a network outside JWville is sooo important... Can you BOTH go to classes (dancing?) (tennis?) (ping pong?) (surfing?) together? Get involved with a group of people, and learn to enjoy life. That will definitely help HIM too!

  Even if you do things together at home, build your relationship....

  Does he like sports? go to an event! Music? go to a concert?

  Build memories outside the BORG. I think THAT is one of the most important things you can do.... Love each other, be there for each other... Realize you do not need the BORG to be happy.

  Hugs, Cha Ching!

  PS... I agree with EVERYONE here... Do not, absolutely do NOT talk about this to ANY one... No matter how much they seem to be your friend, even your mom....nope, they will start shaking, turn into blank faced, no thinking allowed, scared people. I had friends for over 30 years, and they could not even 'discuss' why Sodom and Gomorrah were going to be resurrected, not, yes, no, yes, no........ Even tho they talk to people out in service, they could NOT even THINK about discussing it with me... It literally scared them out of their socks! It was as tho they had seen a ghost!
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  I believe that the greater percentage of JWs-You Will Not Be Able to Help, no Matter What Facts You Show Them.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.

  we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.

  but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.

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  All I can do is sigh, and shake my head....
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  OMG!!! Guardians of the Doctrine!!! LOL!!!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lol!!!!

  omg!!

  sorry for posting so much today, but i just went to the "imitate wt jewsus" convention and now i'm drinking.

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  LONG LIVE THE APOSTATE UNIVERSE!
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  [Day 8 - 14/8]Governing Body, Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commissions On Child Sexual Abuse, Australia. + VIDEO

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the big day finally arrived!

  these amazing royal commission proceedings are available on youtube :).

  part 1 has been uploaded and part 2 will soon be available.. part 1:.

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  cha ching

  Nice summary, Flipper!
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  Contradicting Governing Body Members

  by Illuminated in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so we've heard from three different governing body members this year regarding child sexual abuse.. the latest one on the rc admitted there's a sexual abuse problem within the cult, yet lett and morris swept the dirt under the carpet stating they have a great reputation as far as sex abuse is concerned, and pointed their fingers at "apostate lies".

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  i'm left totally confused at the contradiction of this "organization"..

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  " Hearing Jackson lie about what the Governing Body claims it is and contradicting statements of other Governing Body members would be like the Pope saying: "It would be preposterous for us to believe we are the historical church founded by Christ and for me to claim to be Christ's Vicar."

  Great analogy illuminated! Perhaps we should tell a JW, "Hey, did you hear? The pope just admitted the Catholic Church is not the historical church founded by Jesus, and he is not Christ's Vicar!"

  Give them a pause.... let them express themselves, then tell them what Jackson said about the Governing Body, "Well, that would be a bit presumptuous to say I speak for god wouldn't it?

  THX!
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  Another one decides to leave

  by problemaddict 2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well in a month where i had a friend of 20 years tell me "we can't kick it no mo" because i no longer go to meetings, i had an even older friend who is coming to visit me, call me and tell me hes out.. currently a high profile ms who gives talks out all over the place, the elders said they are recommending him for appt to the body in sep when the co is coming through.

  but nope......hes about to step down all together.. what did it?

  because i am not disfellowshipped, and soft peddle my issues with the org, i was able to speak to him about things like blood, and a couple other things.

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  problemaddict! Thank you for sharing!!!!!

  I think the dam is starting to crack! The Berlin wall is coming DOWN!
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  Mr Jackson said the GB has apologized in the past?

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  please enlighten me as to where and when...

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  cha ching

  Wellllll, the GB doooooooooo love us, so, I guess love means "never having to say your sorry"
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  Phone call straight after the Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  straight after the commission ended today within minutes, the phone rang.

  it was one of the people who are working on it.

  firstly she established if i was alright and did i want to talk.. i said i was too tired and unhappy that geoffrey jackson managed to do some preaching....she said they were aware of that.

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  cha ching

  Yes, I agree with Alive, he knew about Terrence's comments, but nothing about the girl's... Even if your father is ill, he probably sleeps a lot, and I am sure the "Legal Department" could have supplied him with anything he needed....

  What would be YOUR first concern? 1. What happened to these poor girls? or 2. What is my best legal move?

  Yes, Angus knew what he was doing when he asked, "Do you consider your God, Jehovah to be a compassionate God?"